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    Black Friday Coverage Part 4

    Posted by Quad Jacks April 16, 2011


    QuadJacks Black Friday Coverage Part 4 hours 9-12

    Cast:

    Noah Boeken 5m-52
    Dutch Boyd- entire show
    Zekda- entire show
    Marco Valerio- entire show
    James Mitchell- entire show
    Pete the Beat- entire show
    Mikon 1m-?
    Thomas from Slovakia- 23m-?
    Remko Rinkema- 28m-51m
    NoahSD- 85m-end
    Tod/Eugene? 98m- 122
    Ross Maller- 115m-125m
    Jason Koon- 144m-end

    Dawn Breaks on the Fabulous Las Vegas Strip, and after an all night Black Friday podcast; QJ Headquarters vows to stay on the air, “Im sticking the fuck around. This is fucking serious, this is our livelihood folks” says Marco Valerio of QJ News. Armed with bottles of McAllen’s Schotch, Blunts, an expert panel, and a new army of over 600 listeners, the future looks bright for QJ Radio.

    The Black Friday panel introduces a steady stream of heady guests beginning with Noah, a PokerStars Pro from the Netherlands, and Thomas from Slovakia. The Panel discusses the future of U.S. Poker from a Euro perspective. Should Euro players cash out, and will the Nationalized Euro model be addopted in the US is discussed. “All the other sites will weapon up and go after their business” and ” Its business as usual for us” say Noah. This passive Euro reaction depresses Dutch.

    A Dutch orgy ensues on the Black Friday coverage as Marco welcomes, Rinko Rinkema from Pokernews.nl. Who reminds Marco that every time they meet he’s drinking and interviewing poker players. Las Vegas Morning News hits with a front page story about the seizure of Online Poker. The Panel discusses Poker Media and speculate on International tourny outcomes and new structures. A line on the number of Main Event runners is proposed at 4500. Pete the Beat lights up another one and could use a little, “Rub n’ Tug”. End Game predictions ensue as Dutch predicts some of the accused will never set foot on US soil again, and Zak suggests sites may be back in a couple of months with a new tax or Harrah’s Interactive will take over. Marco May be losing his mind.

    Zak proclaims, ” Dinosaurs once walked the earth.” and the Panel questions who knew what when, and how this influenced the new FTP rake structures?

    NoahSD Joins and gives a shout out to all his poker security uber obsessed friends on 2+2, and reminds the panel that the indictment is not about online gambling its about bank fraud and looks pretty open and shut. Todd/Eugene joins and proclaims that its all about the money. Ross Maller reminds the panel that they have email evidence. The Panel degens and claims its first victim as Pete the Beat passes out snoring on air. then wakes suddenly, as if from a nightmare and proclaims, ” They took our fuckin jobs”

    Finally the Black Friday Panel introduces Jason Koon. When asked if he has other skill to fall back on? After a Masters in Business Administration and multiple 6 figure cashes he declares, “I’d rather flip burgers”.

    1m Dutch- I studied law…lawyers are just guessing like everyone else
    Micon- i’m embarassed 4 my country ICAN domain owners
    2m Dutch- Why operate under .com .net exposes to u.s. jurisdiction
    3m Dutch- tax day is Mon. 18th
    James- stars uses .eu now. Do, You wanna hear my end game 4 this, settle, take $ cap on capital gains”
    4m Pete- you get check n 1099
    Micon- its a rogue arm of us gov

    5m Enter Noah-poker stars pro
    6m Marco- What is status of sites ? dot what? eu, ?
    7m Noah- “all the other sites will weapon up and go after their business”
    8m Noah- in a full month FTP mite really go down
    Dutch- stars did a great job diversifying
    Noah- maybe zynga poker, who knows. business as usual 4 euro players
    10m Dutch- will BF affect other world players? what will the seizure of over 70 banks effect cash out?
    13m. Zak- double entries trap set 2 fail?
    15m Noah- i think it will be small part that move..maybe 2 something better with their lives than poker
    Marco- whats poker in nederlands
    Noah? its not legal? its gonna take months maybe year b4 playn again. many countries dont want americans migrants..lol
    17m Pete- work visa 4 canada up n runnin in 2mo.
    Pete- lookin already on line 6mo lease canada im all over it
    18m Zak- to noah are you coming out 2 the sop? need to clarify taxes. im in makeup 100k 30 5 tax in holland
    19m 2 Noah from chat- should euro players cash out. no we’re european and dont have to worry aboout it
    20m Marco 2 Noah- will poker un US go the way of national euro model ?
    the sites will decide. idk. im ok now we have twitter
    23 Marco- when is it over? It will never be over

    23m Enter Thomas from Slovakia- Games mite get much softer
    24m Noah- all fish went broke,
    Tom- mite be good for us,
    Noah- garuntees go down, tournaments will get softer, cash games stay the same
    25m Tom- all regs freakn out, cashed out, fish playn as usual
    26m Noah- theres no fear 4 us. T we may even happy
    Dutch- that really depresses me

    27m Rinco Rinkema tweets 2 marco, M-this is gonna be a dutch orgy
    28m RR- writes 4 pokernews.nl that noah owns. we met at wsop.. RR yes you were drinking heavily and interviewing players..
    Marco- nothing changes, im still drinking and interviewing players
    29m DB- 30 Las Vegas News breaks. inet poker domain seized
    30m RR- games will get softer, how long is this gonna take? settle , pay, drawn out lawsuit
    32m Marco- will stars adopt new tourny structure?
    Noah- would make sense,
    RR- sunday Mil and others will change. wheres the biggest player pool now?
    34m Marco 2 RR- will there be fewer stories as a journalist?
    Marco-Lets talk Poker Media.
    RR- what will am online players do? ept soon? euro market will get bigger bcuz euro fields are softer that wpt. not expecting ept 2 decrease. euro only tourny should be good. wondering about the wsop coverage, will there be ads to support it?
    36m. DB- front story top page in las vegas BD- Brick n Mortar’s drinkn champagne PS n FT selling user lists. this is huge 4 them
    37m Noah- it was all lookn brighter now we’re set back 4 years
    DB- i disagree mite quicken legislation. states by states need 2 proactively legalize. this should raise awareness
    Noah- if they pay fines will it be all good?
    DB will they get gaming liscense again? Party Poker?
    RR- party has better future, bigger chance 4 liscense, N only good w/ liscense
    41 PL- just litn up another 1…lookn to crush ftop scoop 6 fig b4 wooosap
    42.. James- things will get better
    Noah -wheres line on woooosop?
    Zak- Eric Morris said 3k..
    DB- takes over
    Noah- under on 5k
    DB- wheres line 4500
    PL- last year was 6600
    43m will euro nations follow us model and indict
    DB- maybe copycat suits…
    Zak- i agree
    44m they may turn selves they may hide
    45m Marco- shout out 2 asian spa
    PL- i culd use a little rub n tug
    47m Noah- 2 M have you contacted 4 sites? M- getting a lot of no comment
    48m Marco- thanks the worldly presence of the panel
    49m PL- if i get my hands on him i’ll rip his head off and shit down his throat
    i run the corner on 20th ave in Brooklyn
    Marco- Pete been smokin while we’ve been drinkin
    50m PL- extend break 2 20 mins so pete can smoke his face off
    51m RR- leaves 4 interview w/Ftrain? pro playing LAPT in Peru
    52m Noah leaves
    Marco- not tired, exhausted, enjoying this way 2 much.. im gonna stik the fuk around, PL me 2.. Marco-petes armed w/ blunts, im armed w/. Mcallens . its spinach 4 popeye, this is fukn serious, our livlihood. im here to stay, this our livlihood folks

    55m DB- end game guess… in nextweek most of 11 will surrender and plea. maybe 1 oe 2 will fight charges and lose. < 2 yrs lockup. couple never show up in us again.. $ DOJ seizure so sites dont run away w/ $ plea bargain must include honor cashout by indi audit. no 1099′s just extended netteller delays
    response to james aussie doomsday scenario

    56 Zak- Jungleman on the way
    57m Marco- msg from seb? Stars update has changed?
    58m Marco- speaking 2 asian spa, quote from Network, god damn im losing my mind
    Zak- cant get in2 stars from my location, i can see the ftp games
    59m James- 48k players on ftp its a shill number. Z could be play moner playas
    62m Eugene Tod pro?
    PL- bareback or w/ a rubber? Z thanx to james, pete, dutch PL petes plan is bluescreens and blowjobs, steady cashouts that dont work
    63m Zak- it is what is , we got fucked. JM- how it is nothing more, nothing less. Z end game. maybe month back we get back sites w/ new taxed. or harrahs moves in …
    stars has enough $ to extort for 5 billion.
    64m DB- disagrees doj not prosectuing 4 $ but bcuz their breaking the law.
    65m Zak- this is extortion. PL 2 the 3rd degree. give me my piece mofo. DB doj doesnt work on vig.. goin 4 glory and the rite to put people away.
    66m Zak- people in power are paid off. BD- i read the indictment, Z Howard L’s of the world, i fukn own this shit
    67m Marco- Z your on fire!.. Z almost 13 hrs now
    68m move 2 serious network very well w/ UB. we’re dealin w/ a shady business.. like home game thats illegal , the cops can break down the door.
    69m DB- I boycott 2+2
    70m JM- potential bad beat for whole poker world..pl i dont make deposits. i swap w/ friends.. last 1 cleared was 6 weeks.. z you mite as well been playn on fukn zynga. PL just bubbled UB final table other nite
    71m what happens to home games $ on the table at busted homegame? gone says the panel
    73m DB- ignorance of the law is no excuse
    Zak- bring the cops 2 the home game
    74m conspiracy theory.. tilt knew embedded with this lobby group. pl Dutch tell me why? DB if they knew its a bigger black mark on our industry

    75m Zak- Dinosaurs once walked the earth
    77m DB- russ hamilton never walk in to card room again. ray bitar will walk in to card room again. reps ruined forever. if its found out they knew about. if multi entries and rush was a big con 2 pull in as much rake as possible. b4 seizure..
    79m Zak- whats their past? pl their all fukn shady scumbags
    DB- indictment says 33% of all deposits is rake profit
    80m DB- they did new promos 2 rake more. but not bcuz they knew of impending doom
    81m PL- i highly doubt durrs wondering where his $ is. db its all speculation. a good # of red pros w/ $ online who will be put out
    83m Zak- at what point will employess turn. DB theres gonna be whistleblowers
    84m Zak- nearing 13 hours straight. pledge 2 stay on 24 hours. M as long as it takes

    85m.. Enter NoahSD foremost authority on 2+2 about UB.

    86m Dutch Boyd, James Aussie, Pete, Zak, Marco

    87m Noah nsdpoker.com sites doin shady stuff.. not about online gambling. its about fraud. fbi n doj are really good at looking into bank fraud.. bribing banks. lying to customers.. looks like real case and real scary.
    89m Marco- DOJ cant overlook its serious shit.. N Mastercard n Visa should be pissed.
    90m marco- ?’s from chat
    92m Noah- UB scandal. obsessed w/ poker security.
    93m Noah- shouts out to the uber obsessed
    95m DB- what will be call this day? M- The day the earth stood still. PL- BF, gloomy sat. sun misery
    96m DB-? party gamin stock went up 13% bicycle, tables shufflemaster, chairs, dealers got job insurance0
    98m Ross Maller on the way says Eric Seidell arrested is bullshit

    98m Hello Tod eugene

    Panel DB, Noah Sd, James mitchell aussie, Pete the beat, Zak, Marco, and Todd

    100m Tod- i dont give a fuk what anyone says. its about$. there’s laundering goin on ..only 50% pay tax. rake is huge
    103m Tod- i think everyone gets their $ back
    107m Noah- no way stars tilt shuts down doors internationally. DB if usgov seizes servers

    108m panel shout out: DB, Pete, Todd, Noah, James, Zak, Marco- what about me

    109m Tod- issue depends on POV. BD credible chance of doors closing based on ED credible sourse.. Todd no way
    110m Noah- DOJ did everything at same time. Todd- I’ll bet sites knew 48 hrs advised no travel 2 USA
    112m Tod-sites complying no more us players. now we want the $. the processing company lied about the golf balls
    114m how did doj get emails
    Marco- Jason Koon on his way

    115m Enter Ross Malller lawyer. big broblem is they do have proof..processor has email. PL believe the rat. RM not even a rat its written out.
    116m Tod- whats the number 500m..BD no way someones doin time
    119m Tod- Big fine for FTP to ever come bak 2 US market. more about $ than puttin people in jail

    122 Tod/ Eugene exit go bet on a horse at 20:1
    124m RM- thinks its like netteller situation.. z- bright future just not right away

    125m exit Ross Maller smoke break Noah, Pete, Dutch, James
    126m Noah- gonna be a disaster for many of my friends. netteller likely situation..takes a while but they do get money back. not worried about losing, but will take a while 2 get it.
    128m Noah-not clear what part of companys assets were seized?
    130m Marco- Jungleman Daniel Cates joining soon..1 bottle of McCallen down
    132m Marco- pours scotch
    132m James- biggest online transition no more piss bottle under the table
    134 Noah- end game ..no us players. long time 4 $ return.. no clue about Absolute.. no canadian withdrawls on Absolute

    135m 1st casualty PL snoring and sleeping
    136m Marco- apologizes 2 his fri nite date..I love you..PL they took our fuckin jobs!
    137m Noah- end game continued.. other sites continue, merge, bodog..
    138m Marco- Thomas from Slovakia says FTP servers in uk and its all good
    140m James- 100$ who can last longer
    142m PL- pushes the limits of free speech
    143m DB- vegas is a great city 2 b broke in

    144m Enter Jason Koon. high stakes mtt pro 90% online 10% live since 2008 fall. kinda scared about whole situation. just like average guy. enough $ wrapped up online 2 sweat. full tilt cashouts capped at 10k
    146m id rather flip burgers than go back in to finance job using my business degree
    friends w/ a lot of high stakes mtt regs and we’re all out of work
    148m Zak- Whats the buzz? lets get the $ offline or hold tight
    150m ? 2 Noah how many people play online 4 a living? 5k ?
    152m Jason- headin 2 florida 4 wpt cash games very juicy
    153m DB- says maybe 3 million 3% maybe 60k poker player pros
    155m Zak- could be good 4 Vegas lots of homes to rent or buy, onyx cup unlikely
    156m Noah- wpt will continue w/ low turn out..
    Zak- issues 1st QJ disclaimer!
    panel shouts out 2 matt savage
    157m James- biggest win 500k online
    158m maybe naive, but hold tight and we’ll get our $
    159m Noah- probably better to leave it there? might be risk of putting $ in limbo
    DB- why wouldnt you cash out.0 $might be gone
    161m panel looking 4 feedback from chat about audio
    164m restart
    dutch james, jason, noah, pete, zekda, marco….

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