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    Cash Plays with Joe Tehan & John Kim

    Posted by John Kim March 22, 2012

    Cashplays with John Kim and Joe Tehan premiered today.

    To start things off, we discuss Joe’s infamous 4-2 hand from an Epic Poker League Tournament. With 14 players left in the tournament where 12 places pay out. Faraz Jaka, the short stack, moved all in. Vanessa Russo re-raised. With Joe Tehan being chip leader at the table, he re-raised all in putting Russo’s stack at risk. After tanking, Russo finally called. Jaka turns over Aces, Russo Queens, and Joe turns over…2-4 off suit. Joe hits a 4 on the flop, and then turns trip 4s on the turn. The river was a blank and he was able to eliminate the two players. Joe went on to take third in the event for a 300k score.

    For more information on receiving coaching from these long term winners or their training site, visit StackEmCoaching.com

    Mixed Games

    In this segment, Tehan talks about his experiences playing the new PLO 8 game at his local casino. Joe seems to enjoy playing calling it “a true form of poker”. Joe goes on to say he is surprised at the amount of mistakes that experienced poker players make in this game, especially from the seasoned NL Hold ‘em players. Joe recommends if you can find a low limit mixed game in your area you should go out and learn how to play it.

    Erik Lindgren Fantasy Football Controversy

    Next, we talk about the popular Erik Lindgren thread on the 2p2 forums. This is a subject that we are both personally involved. The thread states that Edog owes many players in high stakes fantasy football leagues. We have both beaten Erik out of a large amount and he has yet to pay out his bets.
    We feel that at the very least Lindgren should issue some sort of an apology to the people he owes to avoid any speculation as to why these debts haven’t been repaid.

    We then discuss Erica Lindgren’s insensitive twitter remarks, and Daniel Negreanu’s defense of Lindgen in his video blog.

    In closing, we both agree that if you make a bet with someone, both parties are on the hook for it and both should honor the bet.

    Live Vs. Online play

    For this part of the program, we are joined by two coaches for StackEmCoaching.com
    Jaymes Rosenthal and Jon Hemmer were both successful online players who were forced to convert to live poker due to Black Friday.

    Jon, who was an online heads up specialist, says he had to learn more about multi-way pots and various things you have to encounter in 6-max and full ring games. One of the bigger differences between live and online for Jon is that he feels ranges are wider live. He says live players play a lot of hands that most online players would fold pre-flop.

    Jaymes, states the biggest obstacle for him was getting comfortable at the table. For the first 6-8 months, he said he played his online style where he felt he had an edge over everyone at the table. He had to tighten his ranges in live games.

    The question was asked how they were able to adapt to the slower pace of live play. To which Jon replied that he brings his IPad to the table. He admits that it isn’t the best idea to picking up tells but feels that if it keeps him at the table longer, it is +EV for him. Jaymes says he had to teach himself to talk to people more and to just enjoy the game more. Instead of playing more hands to avoid boredom, he came out of his shell he became more patient and was able to enjoy the experience.

    Joe agrees that you should be more relaxed, get to know the players. It will help your game.

    All agree that live play is easier than online.

    How to deal with limpers.

    Another big difference between live and online play is the number of limpers in the live game. Even good players do a lot of limping. Here, we discuss the best strategy on how to combat these types of players.

    Joe says he tries to isolate limpers and gain control of the pot. Initiative and Position are two of the most important concepts in No Limit Hold ‘em. Live poker games have much more opportunities to do this. Less experienced live players come to play and are more willing to gamble and are less fundamental than online players. They are less willing to fold hands compared to online where players tend to be more technical and playing perfect poker. In live games, you play deeper, people will stack off lighter, and the games are softer compared to online.

    Next, Joe discusses the fact that three betting is not nearly as important in live poker. With the amount of limp/callers in the live game, we both agree that it just isn’t as necessary.

    What issues did you encounter after transitioning to live?

    Jaymes says he found it difficult keeping his patience and emotional control when starting out live. He goes on to say that if he was stacked online, he wasn’t as worried because he could overcome those loses much quicker. He confesses to becoming tilted much easier playing live because it would take him longer to win his buy-ins back. Again he stresses the importance of patience

    Biggest mistake Online Players make playing live

    Jon and Jaymes both agree that playing too aggressively is the biggest mistake online players make when converting to live. Starting out, they just don’t have the patience needed for live play. Cockiness and Ego also seem to be a problem.

    Listener Questions

    Sorel Mizzi sends in a question about a specific hand that he played against Joe in the LAPC Classic.
    Next, we discuss how to combat set miners. Jon’s advice is simple. If you feel you are getting called too much with smaller pairs, you raise the price of poker. You try and make it expensive for them to do what they are trying to do.

    Joe suggests if you are playing against set miners, then you should raise more often. Don’t wait for Aces or Kings to raise a pot. It is easier to play against these types of players.

    Jaymes says you just trust your reads. In the long run, it will be more profitable for you.
    If you are interested in coaching, StackEmCoaching.com offers you an inexperience alternative to help you improve your game. One of our recent students, Dan Natarelli, was able to win a WSOP Circuit event for a 30K score. Please visit us at WWW.StackEmCoaching.com

    There are 2 Comments

    1. John Kim
      - March 23, 2012
        -   Reply

      Just so people know, CashPlays used to be on at PokerRoad. I received Barry Greenstein’s blessing to continue the show here….and we’re really thankful for him allowing us to do so.

    2. John Kim
      - March 23, 2012
        -   Reply

      Anybody can ask poker questions in the chat box during the live show or email me at john@stackemcoaching.com and we may answer them in a future show.

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