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    Online poker finally comes up during Dean Heller and Shelley Berkley debate (TRANSCRIPT)

    Posted by Marco Valerio October 12, 2012

    Heller: “In 26 days, Reid and I will get something passed.” Berkley: “Heller is not doing his job.”

    Despite having recently become a very divisive issue between the two, online poker never came up during the first televised debate between Senator Dean Heller and Congresswoman Shelley Berkley, both of whom are vying for Heller’s U.S. Senate seat in the state of Nevada. The election will take place on Tuesday, November 6 of this year.

    In their second debate that took place on the rainy night of Thursday, October 11, 2012, online poker came up almost right away. Moderator Mitch Fox brought up the issue to Heller about 9 minutes into the start of the debate, which you can listen to here.

    What follows is an exact transcript of what was said about online poker during this debate. Keep in mind the format. Each candidate was given one minute and a half to answer a question, followed by a one minute response by the opponent, and finally a one minute rebuttal by the original person.

    FOX: Senator Heller… Senator Reid said you failed to represent Nevada in crafting online poker legislation that would protect Nevada’s interests. He wrote, and I quote, “I cannot stand by while you abdicate your responsibility as a U.S. Senator representing Nevada.” How do you respond to Senator Reid’s statement, and given the tone of his criticism, how will you ever be able to work with him on any piece of legislation?

    HELLER: Mitch, thanks for the question, and I’ll tell you right now that, right now Senator Reid and I wear different uniforms. He’s a Democrat, I’m a Republican and obviously we’re fighting for the make-up of the United States Senate. That being the case, obviously he got involved in this race, and that’s fine. I understand. Wearing different uniforms, that’s the way it’s gonna work. But I will tell you this, one thing, we do agree. We do agree on online gaming and pushing this piece of legislation through, and we were both working together, and we’ll continue to work together. He wanted to get involved in this race, and I think this was his last best chance to get involved in this Senate race, and I’ll be the first to say, that I believe I have two opponents in this particular race. I have the Congresswoman, and I have Senator Reid also. And I’m okay with that, because we’re gonna continue to push forward, and I will continue to push forward on the online gaming, and we’re gonna get a bill passed before the end of the year, and I’m gonna do that with the help and the support, working together with Senator Reid. At the end of the day, this… this, this has to, we can’t have this disagreement. At the end of the day, both Senators are gonna have to work together, and I believe, in 26 days, both Senator Reid and I will put apart our differences, and we’ll get something passed.

    FOX: Congresswoman Berkley?

    BERKLEY: Thank you, Mitch. Look, I’m a longtime supporter of online gaming. I think it’s very important. Why? Because it’s gonna create good-paying jobs right here in the state of Nevada. There are some estimates it will create as many as 1200 jobs. We need a federal law so that we don’t have 50 different laws in 50 jurisdictions, make it very, very difficult to monitor online gaming. But I think, here’s an example of, once again, my opponent failing the people of the state of Nevada. When he went to the Senate, he had an agreement with Senator Reid, and Senator Reid would deliver 45 votes, and he asked my opponent to deliver 15 votes on his side of the aisle. My opponent voted, uh, was able to deliver none, zero, not one extra vote. We need 60 votes to get online gaming passed. My opponent couldn’t get a single vote on his side of the aisle. This has nothing to do with him having two opponents. This has something to do with him not doing his job, and either not understanding how important this is to the people of the state of Nevada, or not caring.

    FOX: Senator Heller?

    HELLER: Well first of all, you know, this is a simple solution, and I, as I said, we’re gonna work this out, we’re gonna work together, and at the end of the year, we’re gonna have a piece of legislation. And by the way, there was no vote, so to say there were zero votes, clearly that’s not descriptive, and that’s not what was happening in the United States Senate that time. I was working with my colleagues, he was working with his colleagues, and this thing just kinda got out of control. Doesn’t matter. None of that matters. What we are gonna do is have a bill before the end of the year, Senator Reid and myself, we will be working together, and we’re gonna get something passed.


    Both Dean Heller and Shelley Berkley refer to it as online gaming, when in fact most forms of online gaming other than poker would very likely be banned under a federal online poker bill like the one Senators Harry Reid and Jon Kyl have in mind.

    Heller is being very bold when he says that, come the lame-duck, he will not only get along with Reid, but succeed in getting an online poker bill introduced and passed. (Heller is the one who recently said it was better to start in the House instead.) This means that he is either very confident he can make the bill go through, or he is posturing, in which case he’s putting himself at some risk of exposure if the lame-duck comes and goes without anything happening.

    In her response to a question aimed specifically at Dean Heller, Berkley doesn’t turn any attention to what she might do about online poker if she became Senator (probably not reach out to Republicans). This is a standard opportunity for her to undermine her opponent’s efficiency on a given issue.

    In his rebuttal, Heller defends himself a little bit, and reiterates his successful collaboration with Reid as if it were already fact.

    QuadJacks has recently examined which candidate would make for a stronger ally to online poker.

    In a recent look at the public dispute on online poker involving Heller, Reid and Berkley, Las Vegas Sun reporter Karoun Demirjian notes how the basis of the feud may be to impress donors rather than the electorate.

    Speaking at the 2012 Global Gaming Expo (G2E) last week, AGA President Frank Fahrenkopf Jr. would not go into specifics on how he felt about the race between Heller and Berkley, stating only that he knew both of them trusted either would be good for Nevada.

    Most polls continue to show Heller in a slight lead over Berkley.

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